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Whilst participating in an online forum isn't necessarily something I'd recommend to people below the age of 13, there is nothing in VGR's Forum Rules and Guidelines that forbids it. It is recommended in the guidelines that posts be suitable for people to read who are over the age of 13, but again this only guidance.

I actually desperately want to say you're both wrong , but unfortunately I have to agree. The key to a strategy game, what literally makes a strategy game, is that it should take literally no skill to play. It may be cool that you can juggle chess pieces, but it won't make you better at chess. What true strategy game needs is an interface that's there to allow the player to oversee and situation with a vast verity of control options right there to implement thier idea's in a timely enough manner to execute them, it's no about skill and timing from a smaller scale perspective like what gamepads have been developed to do well. On console, the interface just isn't designed for this sort of thing, not like on PC whare the interface itself was designed to be a utility to begin with. Games like AoE were made to get the best out of that utility style interface, and why not? Console gamers have every right to enjoy these kinds of games if the want to, so I'm long way from objecting to them being made available to console gamers, but that doesn't change the fact that this is not a straightforward thing to port over and I highly doubt that even with the best effort the Xbox version will not be as easy to play as the PC version.

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To me it all depends on a few things, but at it's core it's super vague and subjective. My answer, speaking as an artist, and a developer, and a consumer all at once, is both yes and no. All games fit into being a form of expression, but that doesn't mean that every game tries to achieve the same results on an artistic scale, much like movies. Take two popular movie franchises that are also popular amongst people who play a lot of games, or nerds. Lord of the Rings, and the Marvel films. The Lord of the Rings films are the biggest budget indie films in the world. They were completely handcrafted with clear intent in every area. It was made locally in NZ, and the production set out to make the film they wanted to make, and succeed. If you watch the behind-the-scenes stuff you can clearly see each and every person on the production team putting so much energy and passion into telling this story. The intent of the creators is palpable throughout the entire experience, which is an important thing when it comes to defining art, at least for me. Compare this to the Marvel films which, enjoyable in their own right, fall into the category of being entertainment first-hand, and not really anything more than that. There's nothing wrong with this, of course, but the point still stands, in that the intent of the makers of these film series vary greatly. Compare these two examples to two vastly different games, but still games. Ico, and Fifa. Ico is an entirely handcrafted experience made from a clear idea, and it shows constantly throughout the game. Whereas Fifa isn't much more than entertainment, as that's what it's supposed to be. The intent of the creators there isn't to evoke emotions other than just entertainment. Within this debate there is often a misconception that art has some kind of required prerequisite. It either has to be auditory, visual, or a bunch of other arbitrary labels which I feel make the entire discussion kind of poinless because at the end of the day, it's subjective and everyone's viewpoint on it is completely different. I disagree with the notion that in order for something to be art it has to lack a function, which is false when taking into account that literature, music, film or paintings absolutely have a function. They evoke emotion and reaction from the person absorbing them, which may change that person's outlook on things, transforming them as a human being. There are just as many games being nothing but toys, as there are movies being nothing more than something to make the end of the fiscal year report look better, or drawings that are just pointless scribbles. To me, it's about the intent of the creator, and the recipients willingness to absorb that. TLDR; it really just depends on what you think at the end of the day. I believe some games classify as art, but not all of them. It's a form of expression that can have alot of artistic value in it, and at the same time not. It's all totally relative to both product and individual. Footnote: There's also an argument to be made for digital interactability being its totally own artform, as video games really are completely unique when it comes to the way you're absorbing/consuming it. Edit: I think your reasonming is very interesting @Shagger. It's definitely the most eloquent way of reasoning against it being an artform. I will have to think about that in the future. I've been thinking along the same tracks but instead ended up at my "It's too vague to define" standpoint.

I'm done replying from my phone. My reply is totally screwed up. It was supposed to say that I AM reading it bit by bit. That I know I want to read it all, but couldn't do it in one shot, unless something pulls me in. So far it's been a hell of a review, and has given me insight enough that now I want to pick up the game. I've had Innocence in my wishlist for a while, but now thanks to you, I want them both. The insight you give in your review is as if you created and wrote the game yourself. I'm really enjoying the review. I'm sorry I don't have more to offer at the moment, but I wanted to correct my previous reply as it came out all jacked up.

I'd say retail but call center is even more degrading, though I guess they are both worst in their own way.

It can sometimes be difficult to find games especially for younger children as it always tends to be the popular games that get advertised more so than any other games and these games tend to be for people much older such as teens or even adults. It all really depends on if you are looking for free or paid. I know some games are available as part of Apple Arcade which is a gaming subscription service which is $5 a month. Run Sackboy! Run is a great game for someone of the age you are looking for and it's also FREE. This game is the mobile version of Little Big Planet. It's a runner platform game and in the game the player can run and collect, bubbles, coins and stickers which will increase your score through the level. Each level will give you more tasks, so it makes it different each level you reach. Rayman Adventures is another game you could try with your child that they may enjoy. This game is also FREE! In this game the player runs through trying to find secret eggs that protect the sacred tree. Another great one is Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. This one is also free and if you have ever heard of or seen animal crossing or even played it yourself, you will know how much fun can be had in this game. I hope these have helped a little. I would definitely recommend looking into Apple Arcade though as there are a lot of games in there that are suitable for a 4 year old that would be worth checking out.

What did I just watch, the graphics of the game is really poor though I know it's almost 20 years since it was released but they could atleast better and you could just ride across or through buildings like there is nothing there.

Matrix Terminator Batman The Avengers Spiderman X-men Thor

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing has to be up there, almost nothing in the game seems to work as intended!

Handing out leaflets from block to block. I'm really not physically fit and handing them out fast to every single apartment everyday just isn't suitable for me. I prefer an office job (or at least just standing on a street corner and hand these things out without moving). I've also worked McDonald's once. Quit after a day because the boss was a hardass. lol I don't really mind the dishwashing or even taking out the trash, but being pressured on the first day of my job wasn't something I was comfortable with, even as a teenager. My parents dished out enough verbal punishments on that front at home.

- A Quiet Place - rating: 9/10.

Terminator 2 is the best non trilogy sequel. There's also Childs Play 2, which is better than the first.