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1 hour ago, Crazycrab said:

 

Don't you dare call out my ignorance when it's clear you have at the very a marginal and very selective understand of it yourself.  I'm no fan of China or the CCP but the actions of Activision-Blizzard have nothing directly to do with them.  You've posted zero evidence of any of this but I'm just going to go in with blind assumption roll with it anyway.

- First of all, calm down. I posted some. And, yes, they do have indirect impact from CCP/China. This is widely known through the invasion of stock exchanges between China, and U.S. companies. U.S. is relying too much on Chinese labor, AND customer base. Hell, search NBA and China, it will take you down the rabbit hole of NBA stars defending China as if it's a "great thing." They are speaking a lot of good things about China because NBA took so much money from China, it's not even funny. There's even a NBA store in China itself. 

This is widely known. It's not a secret anymore. It's not even a conspiracy theory. 

Corporations buy and sell shares to and from other companies all the time.  There's some companies that generate their entire revenue by doing JUST this.  It's got nothing to with the actions or inactions of Bobby Kotick or anyone at Activision-Blizzard when it comes to these allegations.

- I went over this earlier, so I'm not going to repeat myself. 

You mean they took the opportunity to set up shop in the world's largest and fastest growing market!  THOSE.... BASTARDS!!!!  Seriously pal, I would actually call into question any corporation that hasn't done this!

- Ah, so you DO know that U.S. is relying on Chinese money. Huh. Did you know they are doing... genocide... to uiygher muslims? And concentration camps for anything they want? I hope to god you know this shit. 

The link you post is an opinion piece about a bill that requires a 3/2 3/3 gender split for corporate boards.  It's bias and has nothing to do with with China, the CCP or anything under discussion here!

- Yeah, it sounds good on paper, but you're missing the point. That law is mirroring the CCP's style of corporate governance. 

First of all, if YOU are making the claim, YOUR the one with the responsibility of providing the information to support your claims.  I legitimately don't know what you mean with "It allows for sexual misconduct to go really, really low" .  I'll look it up for myself this time but I won't be doing it again.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB145

Ok.... So it's basically the sex offenders register for US state of California.  So how exactly does this allow for sexual misconduct to go really, really low?  What is low sexual misconduct? Why is low?  Is high sexual misconduct worse?  Can you explain ANYTHING?

- Um... Relaxed laws? That. Yeah. That. The sex offenders get off easily. That PlayStation employee/executive? He might get fired, but he gets off easily on that charge. He can walk freely. In... fact... IN CALIFORNIA.... You can walk, waltz into a fucking Walgreens in BROAD DAYLIGHT.... AND STEAL LESS THEN $1,000 in items. No security will stop you. Oh, nono no. No. Hell nah. Hell, you can walk up to a CAR, and STEAL IT. 

Defund the police they say. Shit's crazy. Sexual Assualt? What's the government gonna do? Nothing. Jack shit. 

Not that any of that relay matters because, once again.  WHAT HAS ANY OF THIS GOT TO DO WITH CHINA!

- CALIFORNIA AND UNITED STATES IS MIRRORING CHIINA. And Joe Biden is owned by.... CHINA. We are in a Socialist government right now! Yes!

Did the executive vice-president of Activision's wife have an affair with the milkman who also banged his roommate who delivered doughnuts to the head of Riot's QA department who's son once wrote an online review of the remake of the Karate Kid starring Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan which was filmed on location in China?

- Haha. Very funny. Missing the point again.

I'm know I'm sounding like a broken record here but what's your point?  What are these connections?  Who are the people involved?  Before you start yes I know that Riot is owned by Tencent but what the fuck has that got to do with the accusations at Activision even if people at both companies communicate?

- I just told you. In caps. 

FUCK YOU!  The connections between Activision-Blizzard and China that you are presenting are linked with dry spaghetti at best and are non-existant at worst, and your calling me out for being blind?  Don't quote or @Crazycrabme unless you present done arguments that have substance or your at least not to lazy as to expect everyone else to fill the blanks in your own bullshit for you.

You need to calm down. I never attacked you.

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32 minutes ago, Carlos X said:

Here is my proof: https://carlosx360.medium.com/introducing-myself-carlosx360-6de80905d34e (Links are in the article itself. No, it's not my site, it's just a medium post, not my website, which is what I was afraid of linking.)

I was not trying to derail the thread, I was trying to wake people up from the Corporate America problems. It's related to the thread at hand. Look at the press release, even. Microsoft Gaming is using "inclusivity" messaging to speak to the government of California. Read it. Connect the dots. The "him/her" detonation is right there. front and center. Microsoft is HQ'ed in Seattle, Activision is in California. 

Why are you posting such a highly political link? Whatever point you are trying to make just got washed away by having to read through a bunch of political crap. 

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6 minutes ago, Reality vs Adventure said:

Why are you posting such a highly political link? Whatever point you are trying to make just got washed away by having to read through a bunch of political crap. 

It's my article. I've archived everything I was trying to tell you THERE. Follow it. Videos are available. 

This one, my favorite:

That video even tells you straight up half of the things I said in this thread. 

I don't like IPB, but the videos are yuge. lol. 

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On 1/19/2022 at 9:41 PM, Carlos X said:

Here is my proof: https://carlosx360.medium.com/introducing-myself-carlosx360-6de80905d34e (Links are in the article itself. No, it's not my site, it's just a medium post, not my website, which is what I was afraid of linking.)

I was not trying to derail the thread, I was trying to wake people up from the Corporate America problems. It's related to the thread at hand. Look at the press release, even. Microsoft Gaming is using "inclusivity" messaging to speak to the government of California. Read it. Connect the dots. The "him/her" detonation is right there. front and center. Microsoft is HQ'ed in Seattle, Activision is in California. 

 

First off, your profile and introduction on medium is proof of... what exactly? That you can link to some very obviously bias, right wing propaganda? Eh, no. If anything, that has cost you credibility.

 

On 1/19/2022 at 9:41 PM, Carlos X said:

- I hate the way IPB handles quotes, so I'll just respond INSIDE quotes. I see your title as "moderator," so I'll just try to be respectful. So, I'll introduce myself, I am a "journalist." In fact, I could write for VGR if I so wanted to. 

 

Trying to reply to quotes done the way you have is a far bigger pain in the ass than using the IPB forum tools, so I'm asking you nicely to please use them. I almost missed the entirety of your reply because the quoted text doesn't auto expand. 

 

Anyway, I'm not gonna quote the entirety of your reply and just summarise it. Like everybody here, I'm well aware of how controlling the CCP are and of the hoops western business have to jump through to do business in China because of it. So what if companies are "woke"! Inclusivity is not a bad thing in principle. I've spoken a lot about this, so I'm not gonna go into detail again about, but suffice to say if you have a problem with inclusivity and diversity, it is exactly that, your  problem. I'm sick of people discrediting any attempt made for more inclusivity as some sort of evil force. I will confess, though, you're method of making that look like a bad thing is by far favourite yet. "Women in the workplace, being granted positions of authority and equal rights means he evil commie Chinese are taking over!" It's brilliant! The perfect message to send out to the Trump rioter crowd who would believe this garbage. If you have such a hate-boner for China, we should never hear from you again on VGR because you would have smashed whatever device(s) you use to type out these posts because it/they were almost certainly built there.

 

But still, none of this has anything to do with Activision-Blizzard's issue with sexual misconduct, discrimination and bullying and even less to do with this merger with Microsoft. You have not provided any proof that links these things together. So please, address the topic hand or shut up.

 

And the same thing goes for everyone.

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1 hour ago, Carlos X said:

- First of all, calm down. I posted some. And, yes, they do have indirect impact from CCP/China. This is widely known through the invasion of stock exchanges between China, and U.S. companies. U.S. is relying too much on Chinese labor, AND customer base. Hell, search NBA and China, it will take you down the rabbit hole of NBA stars defending China as if it's a "great thing." They are speaking a lot of good things about China because NBA took so much money from China, it's not even funny. There's even a NBA store in China itself. 

This is widely known. It's not a secret anymore. It's not even a conspiracy theory. 

 

On this point I agree, western soicties have become so dependent on manufacturing and imports from China that nobody wants to bite the hand that feeds.  It's simple, China does it cheaper.  Even if you wanted to boycott Chinese goods and services in protest to their regime (and I wouldn't blame anyone for this in principle) it's damn near impossible.  You put blame on the people like the NBA players who have to promote China and thier products as part of their sponsorship deals but, I actually feel sorry for them.  Their caught between a butcrack and an unwashed scrotum.

 

1 hour ago, Carlos X said:

- Um... Relaxed laws? That. Yeah. That. The sex offenders get off easily. That PlayStation employee/executive? He might get fired, but he gets off easily on that charge. He can walk freely. In... fact... IN CALIFORNIA.... You can walk, waltz into a fucking Walgreens in BROAD DAYLIGHT.... AND STEAL LESS THEN $1,000 in items. No security will stop you. Oh, nono no. No. Hell nah. Hell, you can walk up to a CAR, and STEAL IT. 

Defund the police they say. Shit's crazy. Sexual Assualt? What's the government gonna do? Nothing. Jack shit. 

 

So your saying that sex offenders get of to easy, Ok fair enough but you did not explain that well at all!  It was so vague and hard to figure out, it would have helping you had "said it out load here".  With that being said it's not China's fault!  If you want to complain about the sentencing of certain convicted criminals then I suggest you focus that energy to someone or something that's actually in the loop.  Just a thought.

 

1 hour ago, Carlos X said:

- CALIFORNIA AND UNITED STATES IS MIRRORING CHIINA. And Joe Biden is owned by.... CHINA. We are in a Socialist government right now! Yes!

 

Now that's just regurgitating propaganda and I've not got the patience for it.  This kind of shit wether it comes from the left or the right (and they both do it) is pure conformation bias with zero substance.  Their just telling you want you want to hear.  I've heard exactly the same about Trump and I didn't believe it then either.  The only control that China has is the aforementioned commercial supply they provide to meet our fill, but that is undeniably a lot.

 

I'll finish off by saying the reason I and assumably others were so annoyed with you in that intial post was you just smashed through the wall like the Kool-Aid guy sitting on a high horse pushing ideas that seemed to have nothing to with this thread.  To some degree I think you still are, now I haven't had the chance to check the evidence you posted earlier and I'll certainly take a look because I do want to be fair.  Keep in mind people don't like being preached to, we want to be objective and see it for ourselves.

 

What you really should have done was start another topic the politics section.  There people would expect these kind of ideas being discussed and it wouldn't have felt like you driving in a wedge.

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I just posted a whole reply, and it disappeared. WTF. This is why I'm not here very frequently. 

Feel free to feel the way you want to feel. I'm out. I'm not wasting another fucking second of this censorship.

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Just now, Carlos X said:

I just posted a whole reply, and it disappeared. WTF. This is why I'm not here very frequently. 

 

Just to let know I can see it, all I had to do was hit "expand" tab at the bottom.

 

7 minutes ago, Carlos X said:

. You are just ignoring everything and not taking my information and understanding my conclusion. 

 

As for this.... GIVE ME A FUCKING MINUTE!!!  I'm still digging through your information, further posts on this thread and I'm posting in another thread as well.  I will come back when I'm done!

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I have to put a temporary lock on this thread to remove off-topic posts from several of you. When I re-open it, I expect the thread to get back on topic.

 

Re-opening the thread, can we please try to keep this on rails this time?

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16 hours ago, Carlos X said:

You 3 need to understand that this whole controversy is a foreign country subverting U.S. Yes, the allegations are horrendous, but it could've been avoided if they hadn't taken money from a certain country, which is China... none of this would've happened. 

1. Activision has relationships with Tencent. Likewise, THEY bought shares in Activision. 

2. Activision created a Shanghai division. 

3. California law requires you to have an "inclusive" executive. Here's the link if you don't believe me. This is akin to having a CCP member inside companies that operates in China..

4. There's a law called "Senate Bill 145" in California. It allows for sexual misconduct to go really, really low. I'm not going to say it out loud here. You're gonna have to find it yourself. This is why the PlayStation executive was fired. 

5. Some Activision employees have ties with Riot Games.

Connect the dots and you'll realize that all this stuff is because people aren't paying attention to what's going on. 

Microsoft can easily clean all of it up. I wrote an article about this recently, but I won't link here because I don't know how @DC feels about it.

Anyway, next time... don't react to stupid controversy like this, its OBVIOUS that this is subversion. 

It's very obvious that you're just ranting over what you aren't even supposed to flinch about. Anyways, I'm very glad that you have been put in your place as it should be. Even the article you pride yourself on, I'm very sure it's still most likely going to be the same shit breeding. 

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This is all going too far than I expected with all manner of words flying out of the bag. I don't really like the direction of this at all.

@ShaggerI think you should have either deleted or edited his post or better still lock up the thread after your input. 

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No need deleting this, it's been made already before the news came live for Activision blizzard purchased by Microsoft company. The best you can do is update the latest about the acquisition. 

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2 hours ago, Boblee said:

This is all going too far than I expected with all manner of words flying out of the bag. I don't really like the direction of this at all.

@ShaggerI think you should have either deleted or edited his post or better still lock up the thread after your input. 

 

I'm not here to alter his opinions. I only deleted two or three of his posts (and posts from others) because they were still going of topic after I respectfully instructed everyone to get back on topic. What I won't do is edit people's posts in such a way that the perception of that individual would be altered, for better or for worse.

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Back on topic, and a spokesperson for PlayStation has stated they expect Microsoft to honour "contractual obligations" and thus continue to release multiplatform Activision-Blizzard games on PlayStation consoles. Full details from Video Games Chronicle.

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