Shagger
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It's been four days since The Day Before, and the developer Fnstastic has just announced that they are shutting down:
Clearly, these assholes never intended to support this game. The lied in thier marketing, used a tone of marketplace assts instead of developing them in-house like they said they would, didn't pay developers for thier work and now they're cutting thier losses and running. The release this into early access and now claim that they're using the money made to pay off depts, which FYI is against Steam's terms of service. Money made in early access is supposed to go into supporting the game, not paying off some dickhead's depts.
This was a pure scam and not much more. Even if they have gone over the 2 hour playtime mark, people should be refunded for this because the game will never get any of the promised updates now.
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We have this thread pinned here for reason. We can't have a new for every new insignificant update to Fortnite, so I've merged the two threads you posted recently into this thread.
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22 hours ago, Ravenfreak said:
I knew that Balder's Gate 3 would be taking most of the awards, which is absolutely fine since it deserves every one that it got. It was fun watching The Game Awards, but being the Sega fan I am the most hyped I got during the event was when Sega revealed that we're getting a new Golden Axe game as it's been way too long since we got a new one! Plus a 3D Streets of Rage game?! SoR 4 originally was going to be a 3D game, which turned into Fighting Force. Also the announcement of OD got me hyped too!
I am also stoked for a new Golden Axe. I am little concerned since the last time they tried to reboot the franchise we got this;
FYI, I have played this and it really is as bad as everyone says it is
Still, I feel like keeping my hopes high for this new one.
- Ravenfreak and Dismal_Bliss
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As much as I love Dontnod, and I do, I'm not sure about the climbing mechanics from Breath of the Wild being made into an entire game. It's a very pretty game and knowing Dontnod it probably has a stronger story than this trailer hints, but it just doesn't look that fun to play. I'm sure some people will love it and good for them, but the rest of us are free to wonder why.
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@Dismal_Bliss already started a topic regarding The Game Awards, so there's no need to have another one. Thread locked.
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Welcome to VGR. I also love that combat simulator on Perfect Dark growing up.
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13 minutes ago, Dismal_Bliss said:
Well, it's not black and white.
Violence against gays in unacceptable.
Violence against police is also unacceptable.
Do these games (or any game) alone incite violence? No, not alone. But they are all pieces of a bigger puzzle.
Normally I'd agree with you and really not take this very seriously (And honestly, I still kind of don't), but because it's Alex Jones were talking about, it dose make wonder. Is this edgy entertainment, or propaganda? I've peaching in another thread recently about how entertainment media is not dangerous, but propaganda is. There is a difference between the two.
Still, even though Alex Jones is undoubtably a dangerous, hate fuelled conspiracy theorist, I actually feel inclined to let this one pass. Whether he's aware of it or not, he's making fun of himself here as much anything else he's trying to do. However, it is interesting to see a man who claims books are corrupting the youth into being gay make a colourful, 2D video game whare the goal is to destroy gay or whatever the goal is. Unfortunatly, whilst I think he's a lot of things, I don't actually think he's as stupid as people say.
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15 minutes ago, Dismal_Bliss said:
You two are basically saying the exact same thing and actually agreeing with each other, lol.
And you think that taking small snips of the points we bring up removing them from context is a valuable addition to this discission because?...
Look, if you want to take part in this discussion then please do so, just have something to actually contribute first. Even if that contribution is nothing more than a light-hearted roast then I wouldn't mind, but it is genuinely a stretch to call what you posted a joke. It's just... butting in pointlessly.
On 12/8/2023 at 12:00 AM, Shagger said:Can't say I blame the kid, after being asked by Roman to play pool or go bowling for the 800th time, I'd kill the first living thing I find as well.
Now, THAT is a joke.
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1 hour ago, Ravenfreak said:
Honestly I'm not a fan of paid modders myself. As someone who hacks the 8-bit Sonic games and have done some work for people in the past, any time they offered to give me some money I would decline. I wouldn't want to make money off of someone else's work and I don't think its a good idea to charge people to get these mods. I agree with Shagger on this one, it's okay to support modders by donating money to their Patreon or other platforms.
That caught my eye because I always thought that Soinc the Hedgehog was a 16-bit game for the Megadrive/Genesis, but it turns out you were right, and I was wrong. An 8-Bit version was released on the Master System and the Game Gear. You learn something new every day.
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13 hours ago, Kennysplash said:
First of all, no offense taken. I even see this an opportunity to have a wider perspective.
The games are not to blame (nor books, movies). Rather, the easy access to them.I still don't think you fully understand this. You're still talking about entertainment media like it's something to protect people from. Like it's dangerous because people WILL do something because it happened in video game or movie.
True, this kind of media builds our culture as much as it reflects and represents it, but that's on a very general scale. It's storytelling, not hypnosis. Fantasizing is an advanced, but grounded function of the human mind and humans by default know how to distinct fantasy and reality. For somebody to not understand the difference in action and consequence between fantasy and realty, there would have to be phycological issues present before. It's a mind that is not working properly. An abnormality, not an inevitability. I don't know if you've seen the movie, but check out this line from "Scream" (Fair warning, the clip is from a horror movie, and whilst short, it is violent);
It my be clichéd, but it's true.
Kids are no different. Yes, they're impressionable, but they're not insane. The obviously doesn't mean should expose children should be exposed the media that clearly is meant for adults, but children are not stupid. Have many children have actually tied a bedsheet around thier neck then jumped out of a window because superman did it? I'm actually going guess a very small percentage, so I don't understand why people would assume a kind would shoot up the streets and run people over because they did in GTA. My son was about 6 when he was playing AC4 firing at enemy ships and hunting whales and sharks and he's never went out to sea and started shooting at galleons. Like I said, impressionable, but not insane.
And that's what anyone, child or adult would have to be in order to be as easily influenced by entertainment media as you seem to think. Moves, books, TV shows, video games, tabletop fantasy/roleplay games, comics, music and whatever other aspects of entertainment media that I'm not thinking are all harmless. Any and every dark thing and tragedy that they've been blamed for the years happened because the person(s) who engaged with them were;
- Phycological not right.
- Took the message way too seriously and way too far.
- Or, most likely, both.
It is that simple.
It's not like it's anything new either. How many times have somebody done something evil and cited something like this as what was responsible?
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14 hours ago, Kennysplash said:Of the three options:
1. GTA being banned is out of it, doesn’t need further explanation.
2. The kid is not allowed to play, excellent. But he has such easy access to the firearm? One thing I always say about firearms is that they are self-manualled (permit me to use that word).If a five year old sees it, he knows where to hold, in few seconds he’ll discern there is a trigger to pull and to point as well. Like you said, if he had used it on himself the grandmother would have a lot of questions to answer.
3. Right there is the answer. Unless an eight year old could legally get a gun and register it. That incident would never have happened if there was no EASY ACCESS to the firearm.
I don’t blame the game or producers, but the fact that kids engage in them.
From the experience you gave, we can’t blame the gun. But the easy access to it.
That is why they are kids, they don’t get to decide what to wear, when to sleep, what to play.
A kid that is exposed to entertainment rated above his age; whatever results from it, the entertainment medium is not to blame.
This has been insightful, really.
I am so thankfully to see good sense prevail in the rest of you post at least. Yes, you got that right. The bottom line is education not only beasts out paranoia as a solution, but ends paranoia as a problem.
Thanks for the input.
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Anyone who has even been casually been following this game and it's bizarre development story probably saw this coming. It's not the MMO that was promised, its now an extraction shooter with 30 players per server. There no zombie hoards as promised, I don't think I've seen a clip with more than 3 or 4 zombies in the same place at the same time. And you know that's by design because of how many bullets it takes to kill a single zombie. There is no mele combat, which is unacceptable for a game of this type. And like you said, bugs galore. The developers shut down and locked out thier Discord as soon as the game launched and it's plain to see why. This is confirmed as a scam. I hope everybody refunded this and that the scumbags behind it get what they deserve.
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I would actually have this over a Steam Deck. Better performance, better support for PC game platforms other than Steam and only slightly more expensive the most expensive version of the Steam Deck and can only compare this the most Expensive steam Deck given the features. The most expensive version of the Steam Deck does does have 1TB of storage, whereas one will to pay an extra $50 to get the same on the Lenovo Legion Go and is only available in the US and that is disappointing.
Right now, I still think the ASUS ROG Ally is probably the best PC Gaming handled right now. It has the same APU as the Lenovo Legion Go, but is significantly cheaper.
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Paid mods didn't work before and they're not going to work now.
And I disagree with you @Kane99, it's not a good thing. Paying modders for thier content looks fine of paper, but dig a little deeper and it's mess. So many many mods use code that made for other mods are so often versions of each other that legal trouble when somebody starts to charge for it could cause all sorts of trouble. I remember fairly recently a modder charged a subscription, not even a one time payment, a subscription, for a DLSS mod for Starfield. He even implemented DRM. Suffice to say, it didn't go well:
This is the future if paid mods become a thing. This modder even threatened people who pirated the mod (His DRM was cracked in a day and the shared everywhare pretty much out of protest) and then threatened the people who downloaded a pirated version with sabotaging thier games (read about that from Kotaku) . He backtracked, but the point is this is what the modding community will be by default if paid mods become the norm. Modding as we know and love it would not exist anymore.
You want to support modders? Good for you, but do so through donations or by buying a premium account on mod platforms like Nexus, not through paid mods.
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There are only two reasons to pre-order a game:
- If it's a collectors edition made in actual limited numbers and with actual physical things. No digital copy applies here.
- If the game is coming out around the same time as other games you're interested in, then fine, it makes sense to segregate your purchases by buying some games early.
Otherwise, don't do it. Ever.
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32 minutes ago, Shortie said:
GTA Online has been popular for many years now and I feel many still play this even to this day. I have played GTA Online a few times myself but could never fully get into it.
Do you still play GTA Online? How often would you say you play?
This existing and recent topic I felt was similar enough that your new thread wasn't necessary, so I've merged them.
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2 hours ago, Kennysplash said:
You made some valid points. Video games truly gets all the blame, while books and movies pose the same threat. But this still validates my point. We should remember that kids imitate what they see and there is the risk of terming it as normal.
Its true that when they become adults they won’t necessarily engage in this activities they play, but I don’t want to start mentioning instances when teenagers do unthinkable and horrible things…which they played as a game.
In the end, it is all in the hands of parents.There are reasons the restrictions are there, and it would surely make things better as compared to without.
I couldn't agree with you less. In fact, with all due respect, I don't feel that you understand the level of sheer nonsense that post was.
Entertainment media, wether it be video games, movies, TV, books or music does NOT pose a threat, that is ridiculous. Scapegoating and the blaming of entertainment media for socital problems, now that IS dangerous because the powers that be who do this sort of thing never address the real issue and causes behind those social issues. They take the easy way out. They don't want to address the real issues because they don't know how to, don't want to because it politically polarising (Gun violence is great example if that. I've actually got a prime example if that coming up in a moment.) or they simply don't want to solve the problem at all. It's lazy propaganda and it's deeply stupid. Scapegoating is such a bad thing that it even costs lives
I've talked about this horrifying incident before on VGR, but I feel it's appropriate to bring it up here to help you understand why what you're saying is nonsense. About 9 1/2 years ago an 8 year accidently shot and killed his Grandmother after playing GTA IV. Can't say I blame the kid, after being asked by Roman to play pool or go bowling for the 800th time, I'd kill the first living thing I find as well. All joking aside, many people tried to blame the game. Well, at least one neighbour had common sense. From the article;
Neighbour Johnnie Scott said: "Where did she have the gun? Where did he see the gun, was it in his eyesight? That's the thought that goes through my head."
Exactly! Imagine if this situation had exactly the same, expect instead of the boy shooting his grandmother, he had accidentally shot himself. That woman would been beyond ridiculed, criticised even demonised for leaving that gun in a position, locked, loaded and ready to go, where an 8 year old was able to get his hands on it.
Whare was the gun lock? Why was is left low down and in plain sight? It even defeats the purpose of owning the gun if it's for self defence. If the kid could get his hands on it so easily, why wouldn't a robber get thier hands on it just as easly?
Back to the story. For some reason I doubt the safety catch (assuming the gun even had one) was on when he picked up the gun, otherwise he'd have to know how to disengage it. So l believe found the gun in that condition, just lying out in the open ready to fire. Both morally and legally it's difficult to blame the child and people don't want to blame the grandmother because she died in the incident, so take the easy way out and blame the game.
I'm not going to deny the possibility the game was factor, kids are impressionable (although not as impressionable and certainly not as stupid as I feel you're implying.) as I've admitted already, but it's an M rated/18+ rated game, so why was he playing it in the first place? People who expose themselves or thier dependants to media that is clearly labled as being potentially inappropriate have to take responceibily for it. It is NOT the responceibily of the people who created that media, simple as that. Like I said in my earlier post, the ratings system is there for a reason and there is no way that could innocent works of fiction as a "threat" and understand that purpose.
Now you tell me @Kennysplash, which of the following three options do you think would have had the best chance of success in preventing this incident?
- GTA IV being banned beforehand or never being allowed to be sold.
- The parents and/or grandmother not allowing this 8 year old to play a game so clearly ment for adults.
- Better scrutiny and training for firearms owners on keeping thier guns safe.
I'm going to give you a hint, one of these options wouldn't work, one would definitely work and another wouldn't garuntee success, but is still a sensible course of action. God help you if you can't tell which is which.
There's nothing wrong with having moral objections to certain expressions of entertainment media, the best art usually is provocative at least to some extent, but do you understand just how ludicrous it is to call it a "threat"? Who told you that? Who or what are you listening to? Whoever or whatever it is, for your sake I'd highly suggest you stop now.
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I just realised I didn't even address the topic itself, sorry about that.
Quite honestly, I would never have expected GTA VI to come out at all, unless the playerbase for GTA Online dropped. And maybe it did, I don't know. GTA Online was an udder I didn't think Rockstar and Take Two would ever stop milking.
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Honestly, the only reason I'm posting this is because I felt like somebody had to, and I'm doing on this because I don't feel like we need another GTA VI thread. So here it is, the Trailer that dropped yesterday:
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I much as I want to shit on G2A, and I will, don't use them, the issue in this case I'd say is more with that phone contract purchase method. I know that because I've used it myself.
For those of you don't know, you can pay your Xbox Game pass subscription throug your phone contact. The cost of the subscription is simply added to your monthly bill. A couple of reasons why you might want to do this:
- It's convenient to consolidate different subscriptions and contracts into one bill.
- It protects your Gamepass subscription from being suspended for late payments, even if you pay your phone bill a little late.
So, not a bad idea, but problems arise when you try to change the way you Gamepass subscription is paid. When my contract wthe Three ended in the summer, I was so glad to rid of them, but I had unfortuatly I had been using that contract to pay for Gamepass and Microsoft would out not let me change the payment method. I tried again and again, got my Gamepass service suspended, got multiple emails form Xbox asking me to update my payment method, but the system would not work. I don't want to be too harsh with Microsoft's customer service, they tried, but they were borked buy the same bad system I was trying to use.
So how did I solve it? Well, I didn't. I had to wait like 3-4 months for Microsoft to cancel my subscription conpletely for non-payment then just start a brand new subscription. That was literally all I could do.
I don't trust G2A, nor do I trust this seller. I can't understand how the seller can get so may Gamepass monthly subscriptions though a phone, sell them cheaper and make money, but it's shady at best. Even so, I believe this is a problem with Microsoft as much as it is anything else.
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8 hours ago, Reality vs Adventure said:
I bought an internal SSD hard drive for my ps4 and honestly there is no difference from the manufacture drive. Just saying.
Well, that's on a console that doesn't have a particularly fast CPU functionality. It was optimised to work with a HDD that's slow even for a HDD (It was a 5400rpm HDD as opposed the the typical 7400rpm), so yeah, an SSD was going to make a massive difference. On a PC, the difference is night and day.
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54 minutes ago, Kane99 said:
Are external SSD's just as good as internal SSDs?
The sort answer is no, they are not.
The whole point of SSD's and new games requiring them is that they can load the game data so much faster from thier storage into the computer memory. Normal HDD's (Hard Disk Drives) are limited on how fast they can be read and written be to because they spin a reel of magnetic tape and the read/write mechanism always has to wait for the same data point of the tape to come back round again. Yes, the tape spins at 1000's rpm (Typically 7200rpm), but that still limits what is possible. CPU's have long since been able to read and write data faster than a HDD. SSD's, or solid state drives, have no such limitation because they're exactly that, solid state. It's just static memory storage chips stacked on top of another that a CPU can access all area's of almost instantaneously. And because there no moving parts, the don't wear or break down and use less power.
However, an external SSD looses this advantage because, just like how the limitations of a HDD's mechanism limits haw fast they can be read/written to, a USB port, even USB 3.1, can't carry as much data as quickly as a SATA or PCI-E connector that internal SSD's plug into. This is what's known an throttling. A modern CPU is "throttled" by a HDD because the HDD can't keep up. Likewise, a external SSD is "throttled" by a USB port because the USB port cant keep up.
So do yourself a favour, buy a new, larger internal. They're not nearly as expensive as they were even a few years ago. I'd suggest you keep your smaller SSD to use as your boot drive, store you operating system and core programs then use the second, larger drive to store games. This is a link to a 2TB drive I put in my laptop and it's never missed a beat. I actually paid around double this 1.5-2 years ago, that's how fast they're coming down in price.
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On 12/4/2023 at 2:31 PM, Kane99 said:
I found this interesting reddit post in r/gamecollecting the other day and had to share it.
I didn't know this was a thing. But according to a reddit user, renaming of consoles was a loophole in order to sell Japanese made products in foreign markets. The image you see above is an renamed NES that came out in India.
First thing to point out, that guy got duped, big time. The cartridge door bearing the name "Samurai Electronic TV Game" is clearly from a different console. The yellow colour is a discolouration caused that specific plastic's exposer to sunlight over a long period of time. If that was the original console that door was attached too, the whole console would be discoloured, not just the door. So the good news is the actual console has clearly been better looked after than the console that door came from, the bad news it's probably just a normal, western NES.
On 12/4/2023 at 2:31 PM, Kane99 said:I guess after WWII, certain countries didn't allow the sale of Japanese made products, so to get around those rules and laws, they renamed the console to Samuari Electronic TV game. The same redditor also stated that the Nintendo in South Korea for example was called the Hyundai Comboy. Makes you wonder what other NES consoles are out there with different names.
I thought it was cool that they did this. I'm guessing Nintendo did this themselves in order to sell as many places as they could.
Next point, there is no way that what you said about Japan being sanctioned being behind these different names is true:
- I spent a fair amount of time researching and could not find any record of these sanctions you speak off.
- While doing said research I found that the Japanese boomed in the post WW2 years and became it's biggest export industry until the late 80's. So there was clearly need to take such drastic measures to sell this stuff to other countries.
- The NES came out a full 40 years after WW2 ended. I'm not sure such brutal sanctions on a country so long after the end of a conflict would even be legal.
- Then there's name, and this whare things get, with all due respect, really stupid. In India, they called it "Samurai Electronic TV Game" and you think upon reading that name India would conclude, "Yep, this defiantly came from Ireland!". I would make a joke at this point, something along the lines of "why wouldn't they just give a more obviously Japanese name, like...", but I literally can't think a name more obviously Japanese than "Samurai Electronic TV Game"!
You what this really is? It's Nintendo being Nintendo. Back in those days, Nintendo shipped consoles out to different countries with not just with different names, but different shaped bodies and controllers. You know what an NES looked like pretty much every country expect Japan (including India)? Like the picture you posted. But in Japan;
It looked like this, and it was called the Famicom.
When time came for the SNES, Japan had the Super Famicom;
Witch looked the same as the European NES (You'll notice the text on the bottom left of each console and on the controller is is different, but that's about it.);
But meanwhile, in America;
And don't even get me started on the N64, a console that, depending on you region, you would use a completely different method to connect it to your television. See what I mean? Nintendo have a near 40 year long tradition of changing over time from one version weird to another version of weird. It's just thier way.
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2 hours ago, Kane99 said:
AI is getting more advanced, so much so that popular videos games are starting to adopt AI chatbots right into their game to give more character to their NPCs. I heard a while back someone made a mod for Skyrim to make all NPCs talk with AI and it is getting better and better. Soon enough we're going to see games where all NPCs can talk with the aid of AI.
I downloaded a tech demo a while ago on steam called Origins, and it had NPCs that utilized AI so that each conversation you have seems different. You use your voice to question witnesses to an explosion I think it was. And you're supposed to question the NPCs in the area. I'll leave you with the video Moist critical posted on it below, it's fun to see what direction gaming might be going. There is another game called Vaudeville that is an AI detective game. I haven't watched anything on that, but here it's okay.
I hope to see more games that feature AI chatbots in the near future.
Why are you being so positive about something so clearly awful?
First, who in thier right mind would suggest that dialogue written by a bot would "more character" than dialogue written by an actual human being? Go spend some time over on Joyfreak's forum, you'll quickly learn how much "character" bot's really have.
Then there's tech demo you were so impressed by. The only reason Inworld Origins has a mostly positive review score is down to people making fun of how hysterically stupid the AI actually was. The joy in it was the unintentional hilarity, not because it was in any way impressive. Nor is the game's player stat's and downloads, especially for a free game (Screenshot taken from Inworld Origin's SteamDB page😞
So you see, some people downloaded it for a laugh, but the vast majority didn't download it at all, and I think I know why. And no, it's not lack of exposure. I mean that very video you embedded was from penguinz0, a channel with 14 million subs and has over 1 million view alone. It's done so poorly because it sets a terrible precedent.
We don't want AI to replace actual voice actors and writers for several reasons. AI is still a long way off from even being capable of that at the level of quality we would expect for games anyway. However, even if AI could I'm actually a little horrified that you would see companies replacing writers and voice actors is a good idea! What about people's livelihoods? What about integrity of creative media? This is like Bobby Kotick's wet dream, selling a game without even paying people to make it. And you would actually support that?
I know video games are not an entirely creative endeavour. I've even said so myself on this forum that I do not consider video games to be a forum of art. There is logic, rules, structure, engineering and yes, whether we like it or not, intended markets and demographics that all come into play when a game is designed, but that doesn't make the idea of AI replacing the people who do put thier idea's and creativity into these games a welcome prospect. It would be technically impressive if they pulled it off, but it would also be wrong. It can't really be considered a creative element without that human element.
I'm not 100% against AI. I think it is interesting to see it being experimented with, even in creative media. I enjoy the AI band The Frostbite Orckings, for example. Even though thier music is AI generated, the entire idea and concept was the creative endeavour of an actual human being, and I'm OK with that. And truthfully, I don't actually mind Inworld Origins in concept either as that is clearly an experiment as much as it is anything else. Using AI instead of the creative mind of an actual human being to develop something that should be created with passion and care for a reason as soulless as saving money, that's a step too far. And that is, whether you are aware of it or not, what your trying sell as good thing here.
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5 hours ago, The Blackangel said:
Who here can say that their all-time favorite game has changed? I can definitely say that. For the last several decades, my all-time favorite game was Zelda OoT. I thought it was the perfect game. Now, to no ones surprise, my all-time favorite game is RDR2. The game simply blows me away. There is so much to do in the game that it's mind blowing. There are secrets that very few have probably found. Items like the fluorite and ammolite, shrunken head, and gold shield just to name a few. There are also encounters like the giant and the devil. Then there are the challenges. Riding from Strawberry to St Denis in 9 minutes without touching water. Killing 5 flying birds from a moving train. And a hell of a lot more. There is so much to do and discover that I haven't found a game that can match. I've tried Skyrim and Witcher 3, but they just couldn't get their hooks in me.
Zelda OOT was special. I love that game almost as much as my own son. Even so, it may have been the first open world action adventure/RPG ever made, and that is it's legacy as well as it greatest weakness. As with most things, especially in video games, the first is almost never the best. Consider Zelda OOT a product of it's time if you want and rate it on that, but don't feel bad for saying RDR2 is a better game. Zelda OOT is an all time great and will forever have a place in my heart, but is it my favourite game? Hell no! Games like Horizon Zero Dawn took the formula, took advantage of better technology, then did it better. Nostalgia finds quality, no denying that, but more modern games are better because lessons get learned and improvements are made.
That's why I'm saying Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West as my favourite games. They are recent, but that's also why they're better.
The Day Before released in early access and it's already a mess
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Again, I don't understand why you keep making new threads to discuss the same games. We already have a thread on the The Day Before discussing the controversy, a thread you started BTW. I'm merging this with the thread we already have. I will rename that thread to something more generalised if want (Send me a DM is that is what you want), but please think whether or not a new thread is necessary before post it.
Anyway, addressing the post itself, and The Day Before could end up being a blessing in disguise. Like you said, asset flips happen all the time, but I don't think we've seen a game with this much hype behind it being guilty of it before. Assets flips used to be landmines that one only had to be aware of whilst traversing the fields of Stream's low rent battlefields, filled with obviously low effort, small scale garbage that was never going to attract much attention nor have a profound impact if the games were caught doing it. Now, thanks to The Day Before, the asset flip is is mainstream news with more eyes on the practice than we've seen before, many pf which may not have been aware of the asset flip as a thing. As well as increasing awareness, and given how badly this turned out for Fntastic, this must surely serve a deterrent for other scum buckets with ambitions to try the same thing.
I'll never describe what happened here as a good thing, but good can come out of it. Speaking of which, I've also just learned that publisher Mytona (Or "investor" as they describe themselves) are working with Steam and Fnstastic to offer refunds to everyone, regardless of playtime. Fntastic are still insisting they have made and will never make any money on this. Even if that's true it was clearly not what they had in mind. Here's the video I watched from LtBuzzLitebeer going through this in detail.