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Wait a minute @m76, I thought you didn't like playing games with character nude or at an "underwear" level of dress (Mature individuals can take such images without getting so prudish because we are psychologically able to detach the nude form from sex, but that's beside the point.), so why on earth would you advocate for Mortal Kombat characters to show more skin? This shit doesn't affect the gameplay either way, so it doesn't change the game. So there was, according to you (without reliable links you've proven nothing, btw) some social/political motivations with the creative design of the characters. So. Fucking. What. That doesn't change the fact it's still thier creative liberty. It doesn't stop you enjoying the game. In fact, if you statement about not enjoying games with partial nudity is true, it should help you, so why complain? Nothing you say makes any sense and you contradict yourself all the time. When you make the comparison between the outfits in Mortal Kombat and fighters in MMA, you don't show any pictures to prove you point. It's plain to see why. Given that this is what a female fighter (Jade) in MK looked like in MK9; And this is how a female MMA fighter dresses for the a UFC fight. Come on! you can't seriously be implying that's the same? I mean, are you blind? The closet thing I've ever seen to someone wearing an outfit like that in combat sports was WWE star Zelina Vega's cosplay of Jade, and she didn't even wear this outfit in a wrestling ring, it was only for a PA and photo shoot. This shoot was clearly meant to be sexy and there is nothing wrong with that, that's the point of the outfit. Just because the character is made of pixels and not flesh and blood doesn't change the purpose in outfit's design. I don't know what planet you're living on, but it's obviously not on earth.

On topic and as a white, straight, cisgender male, the answer to the question "Do I feel underrepresented in video games?", is a simple and obvious no. Even if I did, when playing a game I much prefer to roleplay a fantasy, or "play as who I'm not" as it were. I think that's why I get drawn to games with female leads, like Tomb Raider and HZD.

This has now gone a bit too far off the rails. If you guys want to discuss racing games, that's fine, but I request that you do on on an appropriate thread please. And if there isn't one, create a new one.

Totally agree with you on Quiet. To me, this is ongoing theme in MGS is something that I don't mind because, rightly or wrongly, it's a staple of the series and it's something to expect. And, like I said above, like it or not it's their creative liberty, so whilst I maintain my right to criticize it, I'd still defend their right to do it. Like you said, though, what really made it embarrassing was the dev's stupid, nonsensical attempts justify the character's design, it was truly ridiculous. If they had just said, "It's fan service. Deal with it" I'd have more respect for the decision.

First of, who are "they" and it that's true, prove it. As far as I'm aware, the dev's of ME: Andromeda did a piss poor job on the facial design and animations in general, not just on the Asari. So, again, unless you have some proof that that was on purpose, then that is just you wearing your tin foil hat again. Let me ask you something. If what your saying is true, give me an instance of something that happened within the design characteristics of a game that you claim to be "political" in it's motivation when you agree with said political bias. Or, in those instances, is that just the "creative liberty" of the people who developed the game? Politics by nature is driven by one's own opinion, and since there is no way that every person who inserts this so called political motivation in a game or movie ect sides exactly with you, there must be an occasion whare that has happened and you agree with it. Otherwise, the only plausible explanation is that you're just not mature enough to accept not everything is made for you and have to lash onto this "politics" excuse to justify how you feel because you don't like to admit that you disapproval is routed through you own, selfish wants and desires. You see, my theory is you, for example, don't like the inclusion of woman you don't deem attractive enough, but don't want to admit that because you know it's misogynistic, so the inclusion of such characters becomes "political". However, you'll deem Ellie being gay in TLOU "creative liberty" because that doesn't bother you, even though, especially in TLOU 2, the writing has a strong social/political bias that the game is not shy about expressing through it's writing. Despite what I said, I would still describe Ellie's sexual orientation in TLOU as creative liberty, but there's no sense in denying the dev's make thier stance on the issue of LGBTQ rights very clear through the game, especially in Part 2. That's why when you say stuff like this; I don't believe you. Not only is it a contradiction as, like you said, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", so you can't have a standard that isn't anything other than you own. Building your hopes and expectations based solely on your own perceptions is not anything to be ashamed of anyway. We all do it, it's human nature. However, it is not an excuse to be closed minded and ignorant. Like I said, I still read Ellie's sexual orientation as a creative liberty, mostly because I always see such things as a creative liberty. Even if, like I described in TLOU, there is at least some social/political purpose buried in creative pipeline, game dev's are 100% within their rights to design that creative pipeline exactly how they want, so even with a social/political message that is still very much creative liberty. So you see, I actually do stand for creative freedom, unlike those hypocrites out there who claim to stand for "creative liberty" when the truth is they're just using that as an excuse to attack inclusion they're not comfortable with and don't like being confronted with thier own prejudices. Sometimes I like the choices that are made, sometimes I don't and I own those opinions and never make stupid excuses for them and try to paint them as a general consensus to make myself feel better. I'd rather be wrong than lie. Ellie being gay, that's a creative liberty. Abby being more muscular than most men, that's a creative liberty. Thor being fat, that's a creative liberty. A Jotun being a young, black girl, that's a creative liberty. A character having a more natural looking, but arguably less attractive face, that's a creative liberty. The way the face's looked at launch in ME: Andromeda, that's a cock up. The point is you have every right not to like it, that's your role as the customer, but just be honest with yourself why you don't.

The problem with your statement is quite simply that it is not true. People DO claim that inclusion of woman as strong leads, members of the LGBTQ community and people of colour ect has "ruined" a game, movie or whatever it happens to be. It happens literally all the time.

Nobody said that a character can't be beautiful and realistic. What is ridiculous is considering a character's value reduced in a game because they don't meet your standards of beauty and claiming that characters becoming less attractive (in your eyes) in an effort to make them look more realistic is some sort of political conspiracy. I'd say @Reality vs Adventure and @killamch89 hit the nail on the head. A world where the people in in are diverse in the way they look feels more real, immersive and interesting. I'm tempted to even call it an essential element of world building.

Thanks for the input. I tried to use the editor myself and removed the attachment, but it's almost as if an empty, dead embed of the file was left behind that I couldn't remove, it was really weird. Maybe it was because this was a video file, but who knows. Unfortunatly, I can't grant permission to people to edit thier own posts after that 10 minute period has passed, and even if I could it would only have given @Head_Hunter access to that exact same tools I had anyway, so I doubt it would have helped. Still, thank you for the insight.

@Head_Hunter I'm not sure what you've done, but it looks like you have tried to upload your video (the video for a different Michel Jackson song, "The Way You Make Me Feel", from the one you intended) and it didn't work. Now I'm struggling to remove what has been left behind. The easiest way to embed a video is copy the YouTube link of said video into the post. The forum software will take care of the rest.

I knew that the switch had Bluetooth connectivity, that's how the Joy-cons work, but for some reason it only worked with joy-cons and didn't have any ability to connect to anything else. So what happened, did the just, turn it on?

Glad to see you back. Remember we're all here for you.

To be honest with you @Head_Hunter, I'm very concerned about what it is you're trying to do on this forum. Consistently making posts with such a clear and positive bias on FIFA, it's no wonder people think think you work for EA something. Whether you do or you're just a passionate fan, trust me when I tell you you're not going to convince anyone that this game is worth buying any more than I can convince you it's not. Everyone has their minds made up long before the new FIFA comes out. Whether one wants to buy the game or not, there's is almost no chance of changing somebody's mind, it's just the way it is with games like this. There are two kinds of gamers, those who love FIFA and that are completely baffled why and that's not going to change. So, and I want to make it clear that this is advice and nothing more, I'd recommend that you stop trying to talk this game up on VGR. You're not going to gain anything by doing so except aggravating folk and making yourself look one dimensional. Don't get wrong, feel free to discuss the game all you want, but I'd suggest a different approach to how you word you posts on it so it doesn't sound like a promotion.

Add the fact that pre-owned EA sports titles depreciate in value so much and thus can be bought dirt cheap, and this really is the way to do it.

No, it's original release was meant to be April 16nth 2020, but after all the delays the game didn't actually come out until December 10nth 2020, so it was "after the cut" for most accolade windows for that year. September 17nth was one of the dates they missed. The launch was such a dishonest disaster that there is no way the game deserves to be in in contention GOTY anyway, be it 2020 or 2021.

Just to reiterate one more time as well. The report function is there for a reason and people shouldn't be afraid to use it. Using it is not an attempt to "taddle" on anyone or get someone in trouble and we will always look at an issue impartially. Whether we do or do not take action will depend on that individual case. You can access the report function via a drop down menu by clicking on this icon on the top-right hand corner of any post. It is preferable to use the report function then sending a DM, it's actually faster and helps us keep better tack of issues on the form, so DON'T dm myself of DC about an issue, use the report function.

Okay, okay, please @Heatman and @Justin11. I appreciate the compliments, I really do, but can you please climb out of my ass now? It's starting to hurt.

The game is available on PC's and consoles as well.

League of Legends is a free-to-play Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game developed and published by Riot games in 2009. The links should tell you what you need to know. There is nothing wrong with people coming onto a gaming forum wanting to learn. It may seen like common knowledge to you, but that may not be true of everyone. Be nice.

Clearly, none of you three really know what you're talking about because none of you did the right thing. If you see a post you believe is in violation of forum rules, you don't debate it openly on the forum, you report it and let either myself or @DC handle it from there. Listen, all three of you, and in fact everyone, but especially you @Heatman because you have been doing this a lot. Before posting on threads, look at age of them and think to yourself "Is this still relevant? Is this worth bringing back?". In the case of old SSP posts that would have been deleted under the current rules, that is answer is most defiantly a no. Yes, the Forum Rules and Guidelines as they currently stand forbid posts that only exist for the purposes of promotion; But these rules are, and have always been, subject to change. In other words, this rule wasn't always in place and wasn't always enforced as strictly as it is now. Indeed, it was only around the time this thread was originally posted OVER A YEAR AGO that this all started to come into place. Why? Well, the post @The Blackangelmade at the time kind of sums it up. The community was fed up with the sheer volume of this crap that was getting posted to the site at the time. It was around a month later after THIS thread was created that @DC offered me a position as a moderator to help better enforce the new rules and clear spam posting. The opening post of this thread is in violation of this rules, along with so many others, but they were never removed because; Deleting these threads would remove a large amount of perfectly innocent response posts. The process to do so would be time consuming. Banning these accounts wouldn't really make a difference as the OP's of posts like this tend to disappear after that one post anyway. It would not be fair to penalise people for posting SSP before there was a rule against it. This thread is not the problem. The problem is when people re-awaken long dead promotional threads like this to "call them out". This is why I need you @Heatman especially to pay attention to what I'm saying as it was you who kicked this dead thread back into life after well over a year since the last post on it just to say this; And spark a whole debate about the rules on promotion on VGR, and for what? This isn't even the first time I've talked to you about posting on dead promotional threads, is it? Back then I was asking you nicely, but now consider this me officially telling you. Stop it. Stop posting on dead threads that have no current relevance, especially old promotional threads like this that would have been deleted if somebody tried to post them today. I don't know why you feel the need to awaken long dead threads like this, but I'm telling it is not worth it and it adds nothing of value to the VGR forum. It doesn't take much to tell when a thread is worth posting on after some time has passed and when it is not worth it, just a little common sense, please. And that goes for everyone. Yes, it is good forum educate to check if a thread already exists on a certain topic and to post on that instead of starting a new thread, but just think it through first. Again, common sense. Since the OP has never been back and the link in his post is still broken, I'll remove the link and lock this thread to further discussion. And please, if anyone has questions about the forum rules, ask either myself or @DC, don't debate them amongst yourselves as if they're subject to opinion.

Welcome to the VGR forums.

@skyfire is right, we has discussed this before. Locking thread.

Welcome to the VGR forums. We're just as happy to have you.

You have a point there. So it's actually falsely presenting itself as pay-to-win to temp people into paying more money. God, does it get more scummy than that?

People have joked about it, but I am seriously starting to think you DO work for EA. That company is the template to follow to be the ultimate scum in the gaming industry and the FIFA franchise serves as one of the easiest examples to explain why. They treat their developers like stepped on shit with thier persistent habit of killing of game studios they take control of (including the studio that made Dead Space to being with). They treat their customers even worse with some of the most exploitative monetisation schemes that we've ever seen. The quality of their games has, if anything, been dropping the last few years with less and/or worse combat elements, poor storytelling experiences, dumbed down gameplay and presentation that has failed to keep up. The quality control has been very poor with games sometimes needing weeks or even months of post launch patches to even function properly. They release games like FIFA and Madden year on year almost exactly the same with little to no changes, but still have arrogance to demand full price or more to allow people to play thier "slot machines for kids" each time. Progress also resets on these games, mean any time and indeed money spent on them inevitably amounts to nothing. They have literally taking features out of games like FIFA to add them back as "new features" because they believe the fans to be stupid and won't notice. EA has tried on numerous occasions to deny your right to buy their games used. EA are scum. When they do actually release a good game, it is nothing more than a fleeting fluke at this unlikely to be repeated. The only good thing I can say is that they have managed to stay out of the abuse scandals that have rocked Activision and Ubisoft... so far.

You're wrong. With FIFA, you're not paying $60 - $70 up front for the "privilege " to buy useless in-game crap, it's worse. The lootboxes in FUT are pure pay-to-win.