Do you consider Esports a sport?

[Reality vs Adventure]

For people that can move around and compete physically, esports wouldn't be considered a sport. For handicapped, there are sports out there for them, maybe not in all arenas, but who is to say that can't be possible. For bed ridden people, esports can be considered a sport for them. And think about the future of VR systems and esports.

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[Reality vs Adventure]

There is debate about chess being a sport. It seems to be recognized as one, and if so then that opens the door to anything to be a sport. So it all stops and starts with chess. 

[Reality vs Adventure]

I'm gonna take it a step further and say war is a sport. It's competitive, you need physical skill and endurance and training. You need tactical skill from the ranks. The fat cats watch it all snacking on grapes and wine placing bets and skillful plots to destabilize regions. Other countries can join in on the competition. There really isn't a known schedule for war, so there's no olympics for it. Lots of hype and cold wars though flexing military arsenals and holding war games. Today, we can watch it unfold on tv or iPhones till the country blacks out all communications. 

[Shagger]

28 minutes ago, Reality vs Adventure said:

I'm gonna take it a step further and say war is a sport. It's competitive, you need physical skill and endurance and training. You need tactical skill from the ranks. The fat cats watch it all snacking on grapes and wine placing bets and skillful plots to destabilize regions. Other countries can join in on the competition. There really isn't a known schedule for war, so there's no olympics for it. Lots of hype and cold wars though flexing military arsenals and holding war games. Today, we can watch it unfold on tv or iPhones till the country blacks out all communications. 

 

War is not competition, it's conflict. There's a big difference.

 

And as I pointed out earlier, being a physical challenge does not make something a sport on it own (like pro-wrestling, for example) it's about completion. I've pushes examples Golf, Snooker, Darts and I suppose you can count professional chess in that as well. It these sports, and they are sports, the challenge is not physical, it's a mixture of wits, strategy, skill, experience, teamwork, things that's matter in other more physical sports as well. So one can't discount them with discounting Boxing, Football, Soccer. Esports is, once again, no different.

Edited September 16, 2020 by Shagger

[Reality vs Adventure]

But don't countries compete on who owns resources? That in itself creates the conflict. That conflict being a move in the game. They compete in growing their arsenal, spy games, making their currency more powerful or less powerful, and influence of democracy, fascism, communism, socialism, or whatever it may be. To us it's conflict cause we carry the burden. To those at the top, it  just may be considered a sport. Profit, resources, land, religion, politics; they don't exploit it without conflict as part of the strategy. So if we can debate chess being a sport, then why not actual war as a sport? 

[Shagger]

41 minutes ago, Reality vs Adventure said:

But don't countries compete on who owns resources? That in itself creates the conflict. That conflict being a move in the game. They compete in growing their arsenal, spy games, making their currency more powerful or less powerful, and influence of democracy, fascism, communism, socialism, or whatever it may be. To us it's conflict cause we carry the burden. To those at the top, it  just may be considered a sport. Profit, resources, land, religion, politics; they don't exploit it without conflict as part of the strategy. So if we can debate chess being a sport, then why not actual war as a sport? 

 

That's not about completion, that's about power and control, but I'm not going to go on and you try to detail yet another thread towards politics.

 

You're trying to blur some very clear lines here. If I tried hard enough I could define cooking at a sport or even an act of political aggression, but it's not. You're a smart enough person to know what the clear differences are. Political motivations for conflict have to do with the subject at hand. Please stick to that.

[Reality vs Adventure]

Ok geesh; From here I'll keep anything that sounds political in politics section. I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to know war is not a sport. But if we don't question things we become 'herd mentality'

[ARx182]

Personally, sport involves physical exercise for me. eSports or things like chess exercise your mind, but that isn't really sport. They should be categorised differently to 'sport'. Just my 2 cents.

[Head_Hunter]

It's considered under gaming, it's an entertainment type of event since those players are playing indoors simply to satisfy themselves and those who are watching them without fast movement of the body like sprinting or racing physically. 

[Justin11]

Just as the name implies E-sports it's kinda a sports events in the virtual reality. Since it connects everyone together and the momentum is high, which involves swinging the arms, it's kind of sports event. 

[Empire]

It's not a sport. It's an esport. To call it a sport would be mental because, it requires no physical activity. That's why it's an esport. Just thin about it 🙂  You playing on your chair and only your fingers are doing the work. 

[Shagger]

17 minutes ago, Empire said:

It's not a sport. It's an esport. To call it a sport would be mental because, it requires no physical activity. That's why it's an esport. Just thin about it 🙂  You playing on your chair and only your fingers are doing the work. 

 

Not all sports are a form of athletic competition. Some are a test of strategy and/or skill. Look at darts, bowling, golf, pool, snooker, professional chess and (at least some) motorsports. There are even some Olympic sports I would put in the same category, likely archery and shooting. 

 

So e-sports absolutely count as a sport. A competition that tests teamwork, strategy, skill, reflexes and situational awareness measured against other people.

Edited September 29, 2021 by Shagger

[Crazycrab]

55 minutes ago, Shagger said:

 

Not all sports are a form of athletic competition. Some are a test of strategy and/or skill. Look at darts, bowling, golf, pool, snooker, professional chess and (at least some) motorsports. There are even some Olympic sports I would put in the same category, likely archery and shooting. 

 

So e-sports absolutely count as a sport. A competition that tests teamwork, strategy, skill, reflexes and situational awareness measured against other people.

 

Well according to the current official definition of the word Sport, @Empire amongst others in this thread are right:

 

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noun

1.

An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

 

You listed some examples of "Sports" at the Olympics, but that event is literally called the Olympic Games, not the Olympic Sports.

 

So eSports is not a "Sport" per se, but that doesn't invalidate it in any way.  The same way it doesn't invalidate Snooker, Darts or professional Poker.  Just because it's a "Game" and not a "Sport" doesn't discredit the hard work and dedication that it takes to succeed at s competitive level.

Edited September 29, 2021 by Crazycrab

[Shagger]

3 hours ago, Crazycrab said:

 

Well according to the current official definition of the word Sport, @Empire amongst others in this thread are right:

 

 

You listed some examples of "Sports" at the Olympics, but that event is literally called the Olympic Games, not the Olympic Sports.

 

So eSports is not a "Sport" per se, but that doesn't invalidate it in any way.  The same way it doesn't invalidate Snooker, Darts or professional Poker.  Just because it's a "Game" and not a "Sport" doesn't discredit the hard work and dedication that it takes to succeed at s competitive level.

 

In that case, I stand corrected. Personally I'd say that definition a bit archaic and I don't like it, but if that's what defines a sport then that's what defines a sport.

[Head_Hunter]

It can said that E-sports is an indoor kind of sports game. Not all sports game require body movement from one place to another. I know they are simply practicing the sports in the virtual game world in an non - locomotive way lol.